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2004/09/27 14:13
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Ask your questions and post your wishes here.

span / em / pdf
2004/10/08 11:15
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First off, I think it's awesome that we're using HTMLArea in this new editor. Secondly, I work for a non-profit organization and we're trying to fit HTMLArea into a php/mysql project I'm doing. If this can work, we will definitely contribute. (I know you've heard this promise before, but if the organization doesn't, I will.)

I'm not sure if these forums are open yet -- I figured I'd register and give it a try.

I'm currently using RC1 to write documents - For printing, I have two choices. The first (and current implementation) is to run the output through a converter like html2ps/HTML_To_PDF (@ rustyparts.com) - The bad side of this is that html2ps doesn't like span tags. - The bad news about span tags is that HTMLArea via Mozilla loves them. IE5.5 (my current version) still outputs <em>, <strong> etc, though (most of) these tags are deprecated. I don't want to force my users to be on IE5.5.. in fact, quite the opposite. My hope is to eventually go to a thin-client setup where all users will be on Mozilla via ltsp.org -- The second choice for printing is to slap the HTML into a 600-pixel width table and just hope for the best. This is much less desirable.

My question is - Will the 3.0 release magically (heh) alleviate my problems? Should I just wait and see? Is there a better Linux alternative to html2ps (other than htmldoc - no love there either) that I should be looking into? I've dug the far reaches of the Internet for a solution to this.

Thanks,
  Michael Blinn
  People Places, Inc.

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Re: span / em / pdf
2004/10/08 12:05
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I'm not sure if these forums are open yet -- I figured I'd register and give it a try.

They are open, but not very polished. ;-)

For printing, I have two choices. [...] The second choice for printing is to slap the HTML into a 600-pixel width table and just hope for the best. This is much less desirable.

I wouldn't say so.  For instance, if you hit the print icon from Mozilla, wouldn't it print well?  I just tried it and the output looks more than acceptable.  And there's no need for a 600px table :-)  But anyway, if you want customization like repeating table headings on each page a table spans, or using custom header/footer, then this wouldn't work.

Mozilla seems to do a good job repeating table headers, if the header cells are properly identified (i.e. in a THEAD element).  But currently HTMLArea does not support this.

My question is - Will the 3.0 release magically (heh) alleviate my problems? Should I just wait and see?

Well, about printing there's nothing new in 3.0.

Is there a better Linux alternative to html2ps (other than htmldoc - no love there either) that I should be looking into?

Well, it should be--at least theoretically--possible to create a command line script that calls Gecko to render HTML.  And Gecko has superb support for CSS too so it would really be "what you see is what you get".  But anyway, this is far beyond the scope of HTMLArea.

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Plugin CSS
2004/10/09 16:55
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Why in the HTMLArea fully loaded example the Syntax is disabled? How could I enabled it?

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Re: Plugin CSS
2004/10/09 17:54
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Because depending on how you configured the CSS plugin, the drop downs may be only enabled in certain contexts. For instance, in our fully-loaded.html demo, the "syntax" drop down is only enabled when the caret is inside a PRE tag (search the source for "context").

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Cross-browser compatibility (Opera, Safari)
2004/10/12 09:30
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Are there any (probably post-3.0 plans) to look at additional browsers like Safari and Opera? Has anyone been able to get HTML area working on those browsers?

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Re: Cross-browser compatibility (Opera, Safari)
2004/10/12 10:10
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Well, there are many people interested in this (and I would be, too). Unfortunately, it is not yet possible because these browsers lack support for a few basic things required for such an application to work. Examples are:

  • document.execCommand and document.designMode interfaces ("lovingly" known as MSHTML or something like this)
  • support for DOM2 Traversal/Range interfaces. IE doesn't have it, but has something similar (well, totally incompatible with the standard, but at least it can be used: "TextRange")
  • a keyboard interface or contextual menus is almost impossible to create in these browsers
  • Safari seems to have a high number of bugs that cause a browser crash. JavaScript debugging is usually impossible.
  • both of these browsers are extremely slow! I can't imagine how Opera folks can claim it's "the fastest browser on Earth"!  Indeed, Opera renders pages really fast, but DHTML stuff is much slower than in Firefox.  Same goes for Safari.

Currently, in my opinion, the only browsers providing useable DHTML support are Firefox (and any Gecko derivative) and IE 6/Win. [but to make things clear: this opinion relates to really complex DHTML applications; Opera/Safari may be very good for day-to-day Web surfing, but dynamic stuff just won't work right; both of them are years behind Firefox or even IE at this point].

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Edited by mishoo on 2005/09/20 10:21
Images insert problem
2004/10/12 12:33
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Hello, I have problem with inserting images. When put complete URL (including "http://") to the form and save it, in the HTML is the URL cutted-off. For example: I have the form placed at http:/www.example.comexample.html and picture at http:/www.example.comstore/pic1.jpg. After saving I get only "store/pic1.jpg" in the HTML code. This goings I can see only in MSIE. I tried Mozilla and Firefox too, there I get complete URL. How can I solve this problem?

Thanks much

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Re: Images insert problem
2005/05/27 16:53
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This problem still exists.
Using HTMLArea with IE converts absolute links to relative links.
Also, you cannot use the "Link" button either to create a URL link for the inserted image.

Any help to fix this issue?

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Using HTMLarea in websites+
2004/10/14 08:07
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Hi there - ive been looking at htmlarea for some time - it looks fantastic.

Im a small freelance webdesigner and i think about using HTMLarea for my solutions (eg CMS) - can I do that?

I want take any credit or cash for HTMLarea - the script + files will be kept intact, but I will create different types of CMS solutions for my clients (witch I will charge them for).

So in few words can I use HTMLarea in other commercial applications ??

If I make a lot of money ofcourse donations wil go your way :-)

Regards
avminarm

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Re: Using HTMLarea in websites+
2004/10/14 15:01
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In few words: "yes". ;-)

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Insert Table Problem
2004/10/14 11:42
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Hi there,

Before I go into my problem, just wanted to say HTMLArea is a great tool. Thanks guys!

Now for the problem. I have HTMLArea in a editor application and one of the tools the client needs is the insert table function.  Right now I'm testing it using Firefox PR1, and it all seems to be going great, except when I launch the "Insert Table" tool.  The tool launches, but doesn't allow me to set any of the fields in the form to create the table, but also doesn't throw an error.

I'm on RC1 with the spell checker, table operations, context menu, Dynamic CSS and Full Page plugins.

I notice that the table insert works for me from this editor - is this something that has been fixed in CVS build?

Regards

Stephen

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Email Notify of New Release
2004/10/14 12:00
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Is there a mailing list to join to get emails when a new version comes out?

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Re: Email Notify of New Release
2004/10/14 12:09
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No, there is no real mailing list so far; but you could subscribe to this forum at this time; we promise to post a note here anytime a new release is available.

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Custom Coding
2004/10/18 10:11
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Mishoo,

First, let me say "thank you" for your continued efforts on HTMLArea 3.0! Every day I'm just glad that you haven't given up :) As a non-IE environment (and non-Micros**t, where possible. I do hate MS and I have no problem saying it... both for their business practices and the general "quality" of their code), version 3.0 is important to us, and I haven't seen a better WYSIWYG editor than HTMLArea yet.

I have been trying to incorporate HTMLArea 3.0 into our CMS for some time with limited success. To clarify, it works fine except when it encounters unusual code constructs that arise from custom CMS tags. For example, it does bad things to code like this:
Hmmm... can't type it here because the forum messes with the tags, too... suffice it to say there's a tag nested within a tag.

I've tried workarounds, but they either don't behave in all instances or disable too much of the editor's abilities.

What I'd like is for code "cleaning" to occur ONLY when pasting in WYSIWYG mode. If content is pasted in source code mode, or the user switches from source code to WYSIWYG, I DON'T want it to touch the code.

What is the possiblity of having this custom coded, and at what cost structure?

Thanks,

Todd

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Re: Custom Coding
2004/10/25 13:13
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I'll assume from the lack of a response that you're not interested or not available for any custom coding (?)

Thanks for your time,

Todd Lockhart

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one toolbar for several textarea ?
2004/10/19 11:02
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by piif

I'm testing htmlarea for a CMS usage, but I'd like to display only one toolbar to manage several textarea.
The goal is to have several fields (title, intro, text) but only one toolbar which acts into the selected field.

Do you know if it's possible ?

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Insert Link on Image in htmlArea v3.0 - rc1 with IE
2004/10/21 05:49
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I posted a tiny flaw for inserting a link on an image in IE on the interactivetools forum. Don't want to duplicate things, so here just is the link:
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